BASHIR: (Off-camera) So you're-you're putting into your pension but you're
gambling at the same time.
TESLIK: You're gambling at the same time. Gambling works. And the fact is, right
now, contributing to pension funds isn't working. One-hundred forty-five billion dollars a year in
online gambling. We allow that. And that all goes to for-profit companies.
Why wouldn't we take $145 billion and put it in pension funds? Isn't that
better?
BASHIR
(Off-camera) Sarah Teslik with some provocative solutions to the problem of
debt.